John & Derek's Top 11 Bands

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# John & Derek's Top 11 Bands Of All Time!
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00:00:00.240 What's up? [music] It's STR. Derek and I
00:00:02.720 have both recently posted on our uh on
00:00:04.960 our Instafac [music]
00:00:05.839 account what our top 11 bands were and
00:00:08.480 so we thought we'd jump on and just do a
00:00:10.400 quick rundown of the list of why each of
00:00:12.960 the bands made our list. So, what do you
00:00:14.960 think, man? Let's start with yours.
00:00:17.039 >> Yeah, I'd love to. Um, this is an easy
00:00:19.279 list. It was I mean, again, when you get
00:00:21.359 older, you just know what bands you've
00:00:24.480 fallen in love with. So, number 11 for
00:00:26.400 me is the Misfits. I have loved every
00:00:29.039 era of the Misfits, whether it was Jerry
00:00:31.760 Only singing, Michael Graves before
00:00:34.160 that, and obviously Glenn Danzig before
00:00:36.160 that. I love the Misfits. I love
00:00:38.079 Halloween. I love Spooky. I love Dooop
00:00:40.480 and I love punk. So, it all kind of
00:00:42.879 works for me. Uh, so yeah. Uh, Powertrip
00:00:46.399 crossover thrash. I think that they are
00:00:48.239 one of the greatest crossover thrash, if
00:00:50.079 not the greatest. Love the riffs from
00:00:52.079 our guy Blake. We had him on the podcast
00:00:55.360 before. Riley Gail up until he passed
00:00:57.840 away. Uh I thought that he was a rising
00:01:00.399 star. He wrote great lyrics. Amazing
00:01:03.120 band. Sephilura with Max Cavalera only.
00:01:06.080 I love Max. I loved Sephilura right up
00:01:08.479 through Roots. I always wish that some
00:01:10.159 of the earlier work had been a little
00:01:12.240 bit better production. They did that
00:01:14.320 recently with Cavalera Conspiracy and
00:01:17.040 redid those. So I'm I'm thrilled about
00:01:19.200 it. But suppleura is a staple for me.
00:01:21.439 You listen to Refuse Resist. I still get
00:01:23.520 [ __ ] pumped up to this day about it.
00:01:25.920 Yeah, my number 11 spot was Sound
00:01:27.920 Garden. They were one of the the seminal
00:01:31.040 grunge bands in the late 80s and early
00:01:33.600 90s. Uh I'm a Gen Xer and the
00:01:36.560 alternative music wave was strong. Sound
00:01:39.119 Garden was at the forefront of that.
00:01:40.799 Amazing musicianship, great song craft.
00:01:43.200 Chris Cornell's vocals, unbelievably
00:01:45.280 underrated singer as far as I'm
00:01:46.960 concerned. And when he passed, we lost
00:01:48.560 the world lost an incredibly powerful
00:01:50.399 singer. But they were a huge huge part
00:01:52.320 of my life for a long time. That's why
00:01:53.680 they made my my list. Failure was a band
00:01:57.520 at my number 10 spot. Kind of an
00:01:59.759 underground unknown musicians musician
00:02:03.040 type band. Ken Andrews was the
00:02:05.119 brainchild in that band. Incredible
00:02:07.759 stuff that they put out. Lots of
00:02:10.560 interludes between songs. Fantastic
00:02:13.280 Planet is is my favorite album of
00:02:15.760 theirs. Incredible band. Again, like
00:02:17.680 Sound Garden, one of the bands that
00:02:19.120 landed at the right time for me, and
00:02:21.280 that's why they're important. Again, in
00:02:23.200 my number nine spot, Allison Chains, for
00:02:25.599 all the same reasons. Again, incredible
00:02:28.400 vocalist, gone far too soon, great
00:02:30.879 musicianship and song craft. Jerry is a
00:02:33.599 is a great uh great guitar player, great
00:02:36.000 writer, great vocalist in his own right.
00:02:39.120 And again, they checked so many boxes at
00:02:41.760 that certain time in my life that they
00:02:44.080 will always be a top band for me. So,
00:02:45.840 those are my uh my bottom three. What
00:02:47.840 What do you got next on yours?
00:02:49.200 >> Yeah. And Allison Chains would have been
00:02:50.959 probably number 12 for me. I mean, they
00:02:52.480 should be on the list, but yeah, number
00:02:54.160 eight is Pink Floyd.
00:02:55.920 >> David Gilmore to me is a wizard. He's
00:02:59.040 not a m musician. He's a wizard. His
00:03:01.440 voice, his place, style, his tones, his
00:03:05.120 bends, their entire music library. I am
00:03:07.920 on the side of Gilmore. I am not on the
00:03:10.319 water side of it. Yeah. But I think that
00:03:12.800 he uh is got to be one of the greatest
00:03:14.959 musicians to ever live and so therefore
00:03:17.360 Pink Floyd's on the list.
00:03:18.720 >> Agreed.
00:03:19.599 >> Death. Yeah. Uh death. Again, one of the
00:03:22.480 greatest metal musicians to ever live
00:03:24.720 was Chuck. I have most of their vinyl
00:03:28.640 records of their their their music. I
00:03:31.920 love them. I think that they are the
00:03:33.920 perfect collision of death metal and
00:03:35.760 thrash metal. Uh love the production.
00:03:37.760 Love all the remastered work. And then
00:03:40.000 number six is Slayer. Slayer is speaks
00:03:42.959 for itself. Tom Mariah I think is
00:03:45.840 probably one of the greatest if not the
00:03:48.640 greatest thrash metal singers of all
00:03:50.879 time. Lyrically they are just pure evil.
00:03:54.159 Um and then you know I what can you say
00:03:57.599 the the dueling guitars
00:03:59.519 >> the dueling guitar solos are just magic.
00:04:02.319 And some of my fondest memories was
00:04:04.640 seeing Slayer live you know well over 15
00:04:07.439 times I think.
00:04:08.400 >> Yeah. Does Carrie King's solo venture
00:04:11.040 fill any of the void that Slayer left
00:04:12.959 when they uh when they hung it up?
00:04:14.319 >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's basically
00:04:16.238 Tom could have sang that. Henman could
00:04:18.320 have been the other side of the guitars
00:04:20.320 and Yeah. I And Bosaf was in Slayer and
00:04:23.680 he plays uh plays drums on it. So, yeah.
00:04:25.840 Absolutely. And I think I think it's it
00:04:28.160 could have been a Slayer record. I think
00:04:29.759 a couple of the songs were actually
00:04:31.759 castoffs from the last Slayer record,
00:04:34.080 Repentless. So,
00:04:35.120 >> sure. Absolutely.
00:04:36.080 >> Nice. Nice. My number eight is Tulle.
00:04:38.560 Again, progressive metal. They're doing
00:04:40.960 things that other bands weren't doing.
00:04:43.360 They were taking steps and they did it
00:04:45.840 very successfully. And again, just I
00:04:48.080 guess being the age I am. And growing up
00:04:51.680 in the time I did, these were big bands
00:04:54.240 that carried so much weight when they
00:04:56.000 landed. And that's why Tools my eight
00:04:58.800 spot. My number seven band is Steelely
00:05:00.960 Dan. Again, absolute topshelf musicians.
00:05:04.479 Worked with these guys over the years.
00:05:06.320 And I think I mentioned uh it may have
00:05:08.560 been Revocation, the review we did on
00:05:10.400 Revocation where I said if Steelely Dan
00:05:12.400 was a metal band, they would sound like
00:05:13.919 Revocation does now. Again, the
00:05:15.680 musicianship is just insane. The the
00:05:18.800 library of absolutely phenomenal music
00:05:21.280 that Steelely Dan produced over the
00:05:22.960 years. It's it's not unmatched, but it's
00:05:25.360 pretty damn close to unmatched. And they
00:05:27.520 were, as a musician myself, they just
00:05:30.720 almost every song that I hear from them,
00:05:33.440 even if it's Ricky, don't lose that
00:05:35.039 number that, you know, people heard on
00:05:37.120 classic rock radio stations a million
00:05:39.280 times a year, it's still there is
00:05:42.000 there's such power there. Incredible
00:05:43.680 band. My number six spot is Metallica.
00:05:46.960 What do we need to say about Metallica?
00:05:48.800 Whether you like their old stuff, their
00:05:50.560 new stuff, the middle stuff, you know,
00:05:52.800 they're they're a great band. I can
00:05:54.560 nitpick stuff all day long and the
00:05:56.880 drummers out there will know exactly
00:05:58.160 what I'm talking about, but I'm not
00:05:59.600 going to do that because as a whole,
00:06:02.080 that band, they're the biggest metal
00:06:03.840 band on the planet. And you don't get to
00:06:06.080 be the biggest metal band on the planet
00:06:07.680 without having unbelievably solid
00:06:09.840 material, which they do. And it
00:06:11.199 resonated with me for many, many years.
00:06:13.600 >> Yeah. And talk about resonate
00:06:15.360 resonating. De Leopard's my number five
00:06:17.360 band. Um, when I was young, you know,
00:06:20.160 high and dry,
00:06:21.919 >> pyromania and hysteria really, really,
00:06:26.000 really hit me hard. And right around
00:06:28.560 that time was when I first started
00:06:30.000 hearing Slayer and Metallica, you know,
00:06:32.319 and I was 10 years old.
00:06:34.400 >> Yeah.
00:06:34.880 >> But De Leopard for rock and roll was
00:06:37.759 really big for me. I thought Photograph,
00:06:39.919 and I still think Photograph is like one
00:06:41.759 of the greatest rock songs ever. And I
00:06:44.639 think they're cheesy now, too. I mean,
00:06:46.960 they got really, really poppy, really
00:06:49.199 cheesy after hysteria, pour some sugar
00:06:51.840 on me, screwed everything up. I cannot
00:06:54.319 stand that song. I The first time I
00:06:56.560 heard that and Love Bites, I'm like,
00:06:58.479 what is this crap? And then the rest of
00:07:01.039 Hysteria is pretty good. But those two
00:07:03.360 songs were the beginning of the end for
00:07:05.440 De Leopard for me.
00:07:06.880 >> Yeah.
00:07:07.280 >> But those three albums are really great
00:07:09.759 and they've stood the test of time for
00:07:12.000 me.
00:07:12.319 >> Yeah. High and dry, high Romania,
00:07:14.080 incredible records.
00:07:15.280 >> Absolutely. Uh, Panta, what do you what
00:07:17.759 do you need to say? The four of them, I
00:07:20.639 don't know how many times I've seen
00:07:21.840 them. I was fortunate enough to sit on a
00:07:24.000 tour bus and and interview Phil. I love
00:07:26.960 every record that they did. I found them
00:07:30.160 to be everything that is technical, uh,
00:07:33.440 everything that is thundering, just
00:07:35.520 everything that hits you over the head
00:07:37.360 really, really, really hard. And as a
00:07:40.080 young guy and now an old guy that still
00:07:42.240 has some bones to still crunch, Panther
00:07:44.560 still works for me.
00:07:45.840 >> And then, you know, this is going to be
00:07:48.000 probably um people are going to flame me
00:07:50.319 for this, but number three is Black
00:07:51.759 Sabbath. I love Black Sabbath
00:07:54.879 >> just tremendously. How can you not? Um
00:07:57.759 everything about them. I have uh the 13
00:08:00.639 records signed by Azie Osborne, Iomi,
00:08:02.960 and Geyser Butler. Cherish it. I cherish
00:08:05.520 their music. I was incredibly sad when
00:08:07.680 Aussie died. I will be uh even more sad
00:08:10.240 when when Gizer and Iomi die. Um but
00:08:13.360 everything that they've done, everything
00:08:15.120 we talk about is is around because of
00:08:18.000 them. And so how can they not be on the
00:08:19.840 list?
00:08:20.319 >> Yeah, that's fair. Uh let's see the next
00:08:22.800 one on mine. Panta for all the reasons.
00:08:25.280 We don't need to run the list again.
00:08:26.879 Genre definfing unbelievable group of of
00:08:31.360 musicians. Just Yeah, that we don't need
00:08:33.519 to say anymore. Panta. My number four
00:08:35.519 spot was Pink Floyd. As with you, I was
00:08:38.080 a Gilmore guy over a Waters guy. Their
00:08:40.479 music going back to my earliest memories
00:08:43.360 as a six seven-year-old listening to the
00:08:45.600 Clock Radio, the local rock station in
00:08:47.839 Michigan, and hearing their music, you
00:08:49.600 know, it had a a visceral physical
00:08:52.480 effect on me. That was the band that
00:08:55.519 taught me that there is power in music
00:08:57.440 that can make you change the way you
00:08:58.880 feel. And I still feel that way
00:09:01.279 listening to Gilmore's solo stuff today.
00:09:03.839 And that's why they're on my list. My
00:09:05.600 number three is Mishuga. They are
00:09:07.519 progressive metal giants and they just
00:09:10.240 continue to get better and better and
00:09:12.080 better over a 40 plus year run. They are
00:09:15.120 absolute juggernauts and they much like
00:09:17.839 Pink Floyd give me a physical visceral
00:09:20.640 reaction to their music. And while I've
00:09:22.800 not known about them as long as I've
00:09:24.399 known about most of the other bands on
00:09:25.839 my list, they they hit me. They hit me
00:09:28.640 right here up in the brain. They hit me
00:09:30.480 in the heart. They hit me all over. And
00:09:33.040 uh they they couldn't not be on my list.
00:09:35.519 >> Yeah. And they were another one that was
00:09:37.120 hard to leave off along with Allison
00:09:39.440 Chains. And I kind of wish I did a top
00:09:42.080 13 because
00:09:42.800 >> I know. Me, too.
00:09:43.440 >> Allison Chains and Mashuga would have
00:09:44.880 been on there. Um Yeah. All right. Well,
00:09:47.120 top two. Uh Metallica. I remember the
00:09:50.000 first time that I heard uh Kill Them All
00:09:53.120 and I was sitting there listening to
00:09:54.720 Whiplash over and over and over and I
00:09:58.560 was hooked, you know, and that was it.
00:10:00.000 And then you listen to everything
00:10:01.519 through uh Injustice for All. Uh and and
00:10:04.399 I like the Black Album. I I know it
00:10:06.640 doesn't have changing parts like the
00:10:08.720 first four records,
00:10:10.320 >> but Bob Rock made that record so beefy.
00:10:14.399 >> So beefy that I like the black record. I
00:10:17.040 just can't listen to Enter Saman
00:10:18.480 anymore. It's so beat to death. But you
00:10:20.320 know, Nothing Else Matters is one of the
00:10:22.079 most beautiful songs ever written. And
00:10:24.320 you can take the the spectrum of um you
00:10:27.839 know everything from Ride the Lightning
00:10:29.680 to Fade to Black. There's a lot of
00:10:32.079 emotion. There's a lot to hear and
00:10:33.680 there's a lot that any person at any
00:10:36.000 phase in life can relate to. And plus,
00:10:39.040 I'm going to say it. Hetfield has got to
00:10:41.200 be in the same category for metal that
00:10:44.079 Gilmore is for rock and roll. U%
00:10:47.760 agree. his abilities. He is the talent
00:10:50.959 in the band and um and that's not to
00:10:54.160 take anything away from Cliff Burton.
00:10:56.240 Rest in peace, Lars, we won't talk about
00:10:58.399 him. Uh Kirk Hammond is is fantastic.
00:11:01.440 Mustain before that, fantastic, but he
00:11:04.640 is the driving force and
00:11:06.480 >> agreed without without Hetfield,
00:11:08.480 Metallica is not Metallica.
00:11:11.120 >> And then number one, uh typo negative. I
00:11:14.160 just the first time I heard them, I
00:11:16.079 couldn't get enough of them. I I thought
00:11:17.680 they were unique. They were different.
00:11:19.120 Peter Steel was larger than life,
00:11:20.880 literally. Um, a massive vampire that
00:11:24.000 had a lot of heart. He had a lot of
00:11:25.760 heart. He was a tormented soul. There's
00:11:27.760 a reason why he did a lot of drugs.
00:11:29.920 There's a reason why he had a lot of
00:11:32.240 sex. He was a tormented soul. But that
00:11:35.120 pain in his life made incredible art,
00:11:39.040 which is probably true for Hetfield and
00:11:41.440 for a lot of people on our list. But for
00:11:43.680 me, he bled. And I felt it from the
00:11:46.640 first time I heard him, first time I saw
00:11:48.399 them. Getting to know him was an honor
00:11:50.640 for me. Being on a firstname basis, you
00:11:53.279 know, with Kenny and Johnny to this day,
00:11:55.360 you don't always get to meet your
00:11:56.880 heroes, but they're they they're good
00:11:58.800 people. They were admitting about the of
00:12:01.920 their flaws. They were parters, but they
00:12:05.040 made incredible art that is only um you
00:12:08.160 know, gaining steam even after Peter's
00:12:10.480 passing. And so I I love Typo Negative.
00:12:13.200 I love all the bands on my list. I
00:12:15.120 really love all the bands on your list
00:12:16.800 as well. Yeah.
00:12:17.760 >> And um but Typo for me is just a
00:12:20.480 mainstay.
00:12:21.200 >> Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Uh my number two was
00:12:23.440 Led Zeppelin. Again, like uh you know,
00:12:26.240 sort of like your Sabbaths or you could
00:12:28.399 even say your Rolling Stones, your
00:12:30.160 Beatles, you know, they were at the
00:12:31.920 forefront of a movement, musical
00:12:34.720 movement. and the power that that's the
00:12:37.279 great thing about Zeppelin and a lot of
00:12:38.720 the bands on both our list. They were
00:12:40.320 doing stuff that not too many other
00:12:42.480 people were doing, but they weren't just
00:12:43.920 doing it. They were doing it to a factor
00:12:45.600 of 100. You know, they were they were
00:12:47.600 taking huge swings. And Zeppelin, much
00:12:50.399 like Sabbath, you know, helped kind of
00:12:52.320 establish a whole new realm of of heavy
00:12:55.920 rock. And name your album, it doesn't
00:12:58.480 matter, you know, from the very first to
00:13:00.399 the very last. There are gems throughout
00:13:03.519 every single album that they've recorded
00:13:06.000 and uh just a powerhouse band and that's
00:13:08.240 why they're on the list. My number one
00:13:09.519 spot was Rush. Well, number one band is
00:13:12.320 Rush. The trifecta, astonishingly good
00:13:15.120 musicians, phenomenal songwriting,
00:13:17.519 absolutely phenomenal. And they kept
00:13:19.600 pushing boundaries and again like a lot
00:13:21.279 of the bands that that we both like,
00:13:22.959 doing things that not everybody else was
00:13:25.040 doing. And they not only did something
00:13:27.360 new, they did it at the highest levels.
00:13:29.680 and I always respected what they were
00:13:32.000 doing. All their albums are winners for
00:13:34.160 me. Of course, I've got my favorites,
00:13:35.680 but yeah, great band. This easily could
00:13:38.160 have been a 25 or 30 position list
00:13:41.440 instead of 11. You know, it it would not
00:13:44.160 have been difficult to fill them out.
00:13:46.800 >> It was fun. And I was trying to figure
00:13:48.240 out a way to fill our social media while
00:13:51.200 we were away and not recording. And I
00:13:54.399 had a hard time with the list, you know,
00:13:56.160 cuz they're I mean there are 40 bands
00:13:58.480 that are consistently in my life, you
00:14:01.120 know, and some of them are new and some
00:14:03.360 of them we know and some of them we've
00:14:05.199 reviewed and we've interviewed, but you
00:14:07.040 know, it was it was hard, but I really
00:14:08.720 went through the exercise and then I let
00:14:11.360 Apple kind of tell me a little bit more.
00:14:13.839 >> Yeah. Listening that stumped my
00:14:16.240 listening habits and that and that was
00:14:18.160 how I came to the list. But it was fun
00:14:20.160 to do it and hopefully we we meet a band
00:14:22.639 this year that maybe breaks this top 11
00:14:25.600 for us. We'll see.
00:14:26.240 >> Wouldn't that be awesome? Yeah. And
00:14:28.000 there are there's so much great new
00:14:29.360 music. We talk about this all the time.
00:14:31.199 There is new stuff coming out
00:14:32.959 consistently. It's not all awesome, but
00:14:35.440 some of it is is really really
00:14:37.519 impressive and cool. and uh getting to
00:14:39.440 know some of those bands and as you said
00:14:42.399 getting to know some of the players and
00:14:43.760 the people you know Carbomb Greg Kubaki
00:14:46.079 we're looking forward to we will force
00:14:47.839 him to have a conversation with us if
00:14:49.920 it's the last thing I do this year
00:14:51.279 because I'm just such a fan of his and
00:14:53.040 and what he does um yeah there's so many
00:14:55.920 so many good bands coming out and we're
00:14:57.760 angling to get to have conversations
00:14:59.680 with as many of them as we can if for no
00:15:02.399 other reason because we're both wildly
00:15:04.560 selfish and you know I have questions
00:15:06.480 that I would love to get answers too.
00:15:08.240 >> Yeah. Well, I mean to toot our own horn,
00:15:09.920 I think we're pretty good at interviews.
00:15:11.760 So, I think we're doing all righting
00:15:13.760 questions and we're not making it about
00:15:15.199 us. We're making it about them.
00:15:16.720 >> Well, we haven't fans want to know.
00:15:18.639 >> Yeah, we haven't insulted anybody too
00:15:20.560 badly yet. So, again, we're
00:15:22.560 >> I don't think we've insulted anybody.
00:15:24.880 Let's give Again, let's give ourselves a
00:15:27.440 round of We have not We insult each
00:15:29.199 other all the time because I can't scare
00:15:30.959 you, but but we do not insult anybody
00:15:34.160 who comes on the show, which is great.
00:15:35.760 >> True enough. True enough. All right.
00:15:37.600 Well, this was fun and it was, like you
00:15:39.279 said, a tough uh tough ask to put these
00:15:42.320 short lists together, but we'll do we'll
00:15:44.240 do more over the next coming months and
00:15:46.079 maybe we expand them out a little bit.
00:15:47.680 >> I want to see uh you know, subscribe and
00:15:50.240 follow us, but also put in the comments,
00:15:53.440 you know, what are your bands and why?
00:15:55.360 And if there are bands that you want us
00:15:58.240 to review and whether it's an older band
00:16:01.600 to consider for our top list that we're
00:16:04.560 completely remiss on or new bands that
00:16:06.560 we should be reviewing and interviewing,
00:16:08.720 put them in the comments. And again, we
00:16:10.720 really want this to be about the
00:16:12.480 community, not necessarily about us.
00:16:15.360 It's what you guys want us to talk about
00:16:17.920 and [music] what we should be talking
00:16:19.440 about in your opinion.
00:16:20.720 >> Yeah. And if we don't hear from you,
00:16:22.160 we're just going [music] to keep
00:16:22.880 pounding our own dril into you. So, uh,
00:16:25.680 yeah, the the listeners have more
00:16:27.680 control than they they might think. All
00:16:29.600 right. [music]
00:16:30.959 They do. They absolutely do.
00:16:33.120 >> Good [ __ ] man. And I will see you on
00:16:34.800 the next one, bro. Sounds good. See you.
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