Turnstile - Never Enough - Review

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00:00:04.720 what's going on man um racing through a
00:00:07.759 turn style turn style yeah dude the new
00:00:11.040 record is out never enough tell me your
00:00:12.960 thoughts what do you think never enough
00:00:14.960 well I've had enough um I will say this
00:00:18.400 i'll go out on a limb we're going to put
00:00:20.080 it right out there right away i'm going
00:00:22.160 to say that they are the police if you
00:00:25.600 remember back in the day the Police were
00:00:28.160 uh punk band everybody liked them they
00:00:30.960 were energetic and then they turned into
00:00:32.880 the police that we know today
00:00:35.040 synchronicity and all of that stuff and
00:00:37.760 I think that bands talented bands and
00:00:40.800 turn style of talented band uh evolve
00:00:44.160 and greatness does ensue unfortunately
00:00:48.239 the fans that get them to where their
00:00:51.039 stardom becomes get left in the dust and
00:00:54.320 for me never enough is uh kind of the
00:00:57.520 end of the hardcore era of Turnstyle i'm
00:01:01.039 new to Turnstyle as you know i've heard
00:01:02.640 some of the stuff that you've shared
00:01:03.840 with me over the years but uh just never
00:01:06.720 really got into them and so listening to
00:01:09.119 this knowing some of their traditional
00:01:12.000 hardcore roots this was not really what
00:01:15.280 I was expecting from them interesting
00:01:17.200 that you brought up The Police one of
00:01:18.960 the standout tracks for me Look Out for
00:01:21.360 Me track I don't know what it is seven
00:01:24.000 eight something like that the guitar
00:01:26.080 tones in there I it seemed like a a mix
00:01:29.040 between Andy Summers from The Police and
00:01:32.079 Alex Liysson from Rush with a real
00:01:34.720 crystalline clean guitar tone and then
00:01:38.560 the song kicks in and you know changes
00:01:40.479 up pretty quickly
00:01:49.310 [Music]
00:01:56.079 if you go back and you listen to Pushing
00:01:58.240 Me Away you know that that song is just
00:02:01.759 chugga chugga riff riff chugga chugga
00:02:03.759 chugga and that's from uh step to rhythm
00:02:06.640 it that was when I got turned on to turn
00:02:09.520 style and the year was 2013 oh wow was
00:02:13.040 it that early okay yeah and and when I
00:02:16.160 what really got me the record that
00:02:18.239 really got me was non-stop feeling i was
00:02:20.879 running away from a hurricane uh in
00:02:23.760 Florida when I first moved down there in
00:02:26.000 2017 and Non-Stop Feeling had uh you
00:02:30.239 know come out the year before i just
00:02:32.239 found it and I was listening to Gravity
00:02:34.640 and Phased Out which you know great
00:02:37.280 songs this record a non-stop feeling
00:02:40.080 felt like as close as you were going to
00:02:42.160 get to Rage Against the Machine at the
00:02:43.920 time um and if you go back and you
00:02:46.560 listen to Out of Rage it's you know
00:02:48.800 Brandon Yates was as close to Zack Delar
00:02:51.200 Roach as you were going to get at the
00:02:52.720 time um then they evolved along uh they
00:02:55.920 put out Time and Space you know there's
00:02:58.480 a song generator that was on there that
00:03:00.480 was the beginning of this melodic uh
00:03:03.280 meets hardcore type uh sound and then it
00:03:06.560 just evolved right into Glow On which is
00:03:09.280 you know the pinnacle but Glow On um is
00:03:13.360 the reason why it's the high watermark
00:03:15.200 for Turnstyle is because the hardcore
00:03:17.440 elements still remain and we can talk
00:03:20.159 about the changes in uh you know band
00:03:22.879 members but I do believe that the ch a
00:03:25.280 change in band member is the reason why
00:03:27.760 they have gone fullon you know
00:03:30.159 commercial alternative rock with the
00:03:32.879 with never enough it seems to me that
00:03:35.680 this album listening to it from a a
00:03:38.560 pretty objective viewpoint this is I can
00:03:41.760 see this record being one of those
00:03:44.000 albums that 15 20 years from now people
00:03:47.519 look back on it you know it's going to
00:03:49.200 have a spot in in the history books that
00:03:52.319 it it feels that way to me and I in
00:03:55.519 reading about this record and and some
00:03:57.760 reviews and people's thoughts there are
00:03:59.840 comparisons to Nirvana's Never Mind and
00:04:02.799 that that that kind of makes sense to me
00:04:05.519 i think objectively it's a really really
00:04:07.760 wellput together it's produced great
00:04:10.560 there's tons of ear candy throughout you
00:04:13.360 know little production tricks that they
00:04:15.280 put in that like oo you know what was
00:04:16.880 that so in that regard I it's it's a
00:04:19.759 super solid album and I enjoyed the
00:04:22.160 listen it is you know I'm a fan of genre
00:04:24.960 hopping and genre skipping within songs
00:04:27.360 they do a lot of that through this album
00:04:29.680 i mean you start with a sort of a synth
00:04:32.320 wave rock song with the opening track
00:04:34.880 the title track
00:04:40.370 [Music]
00:04:41.919 never
00:04:44.320 anywhere
00:04:48.160 then it goes to a more punk flavor
00:04:57.360 then like a Brit pop vibe i'm happy to
00:05:00.880 give myself away
00:05:05.680 i'm happy to fix what I can't say
00:05:11.039 then dreaming starts with like synth
00:05:13.680 horns in the intro and things like that
00:05:17.160 [Music]
00:05:46.560 so it kind of bounces around between a
00:05:49.039 bunch of different genres which I'm cool
00:05:51.039 with i'm fine with that it makes for
00:05:54.240 maybe and this will probably be a
00:05:56.560 divisive sentiment but it seems like
00:05:59.440 kind of a disjointed album to me in that
00:06:01.840 regard with that said though I think a
00:06:04.160 lot of the interludes and the
00:06:05.360 transitions from one song to the next
00:06:07.759 are really well done and there's some
00:06:09.280 really cool ones in there in fact the
00:06:11.600 last two tracks Time is Happening into
00:06:14.080 Magic Man you know Time is Happening is
00:06:16.240 is a is shorter shorter song kind of an
00:06:19.039 anthemic pop punk track and then it's
00:06:21.840 got this long drawn out ethereal
00:06:24.560 transition that goes right into the
00:06:26.639 closer Magic Man which is its own kind
00:06:29.919 of interesting song i thought it was a
00:06:31.680 pretty bold choice for this band given
00:06:34.639 all the the I don't want to say pop punk
00:06:37.199 but you know the hardcore and punkish
00:06:39.360 vibes to close the album out with such a
00:06:42.560 calm serene track i thought I thought
00:06:45.919 that was an interesting choice i Care I
00:06:48.400 think is probably going to be a really
00:06:49.759 big song there's a reason why they were
00:06:51.520 on Fallon you know playing that the
00:06:53.840 other night you know they start off with
00:06:55.919 this very alternative rock type sound
00:06:58.880 and then there's a fairly you know a
00:07:02.479 pretty hard riff for alternative rock
00:07:05.680 that kicks in and you know you see
00:07:07.680 Brandon Yates bouncing around the stage
00:07:10.319 and everybody's going crazy um it's not
00:07:14.319 nearly as heavy as anything that they've
00:07:16.319 done in the past um but going from super
00:07:19.440 soft to something that's kind of heavy
00:07:21.759 with a fairly you know some hardcore you
00:07:24.800 know tones in there still with the with
00:07:26.800 the guitar riffs um works right it it
00:07:30.400 becomes that much heavier when you're
00:07:32.080 that much softer and I think that they
00:07:34.240 have mastered that and the hard parts
00:07:37.120 are not nearly as offensive and are much
00:07:39.840 more welcoming now um when you go super
00:07:43.520 soft at at the beginning and look I just
00:07:47.120 what's missing for me is uh in the end
00:07:50.160 of the day I I do believe that uh Brady
00:07:52.639 Eert um he was a short guy with a bucket
00:07:56.319 hat most of the time um doesn't look
00:07:58.960 like a rock star was not did not have um
00:08:02.800 sex appeal that say maybe Brandon Yates
00:08:05.360 does with his big muscles out on stage
00:08:07.360 and stuff um and I you know look I know
00:08:11.120 he was kicked out of the band for doing
00:08:12.800 drugs supposedly but all of a sudden you
00:08:15.759 got Meg Miller cute girl you know
00:08:17.759 playing guitar in there and they swap
00:08:20.160 out heavy riffs for sonically driven you
00:08:24.479 know kind of guitar solos from Meg and
00:08:27.759 you can see where maybe a record label
00:08:29.840 might have said something or did that or
00:08:32.240 had a seat at the table on it um I don't
00:08:35.200 know will probably never know but what's
00:08:38.320 missing is Brady Eert he wrote some of
00:08:41.279 those killer riffs that have been in
00:08:44.640 previous albums uh Glow On I mean if you
00:08:47.839 go back and you listen to that album
00:08:50.399 some of the songs that are on that
00:08:52.000 record are absolutely still grounded in
00:08:56.080 hardcore uh Holiday it's a [ __ ]
00:08:59.040 badass riff in there uh Mystery is just
00:09:02.240 a ripper blackout ripper and the ripping
00:09:05.519 parts on this record just don't bite
00:09:07.600 they're not hardcore riffs anymore and
00:09:10.080 that's fine they again the reference to
00:09:12.880 the police old school bands of Turnstyle
00:09:15.839 bye you know the the bus has left the
00:09:19.279 station um but for folks that have the
00:09:23.920 masses that want to go to a show and get
00:09:25.680 on stage with you know the band and jump
00:09:28.080 around and carry on and pretend that
00:09:30.560 they're at a hardcore show go ahead you
00:09:32.959 can't take away the music library they
00:09:34.720 can still go and play those old songs
00:09:36.320 but they don't you know they mostly play
00:09:38.160 Glow On and Never Enough and that's fine
00:09:40.320 that's well within their right but they
00:09:42.320 really are missing a good portion of
00:09:44.720 their music library that's pretty badass
00:09:47.360 what's your take on the uh the
00:09:49.040 perception that this new album Never
00:09:51.279 Enough is Glow On 2.0 it sounds exactly
00:09:54.880 the same i mean the production qualities
00:09:56.959 I'd say the biggest the biggest
00:09:59.279 difference between the two records is
00:10:01.120 the riffs are not heavy the riffs are
00:10:03.440 radio rock you know or alternative rock
00:10:06.080 or whatever you want to label them as
00:10:08.480 now um but it from a from a um a
00:10:13.600 production standpoint it sounds exactly
00:10:16.000 the same it sounds like it could have
00:10:17.440 been the same recording session yeah
00:10:19.200 reading through uh some Reddit threads
00:10:21.040 about this record there were people that
00:10:23.360 were like track by tracking uh making
00:10:26.320 comparisons from from the last album to
00:10:29.200 this one and and you being a fan for a
00:10:31.440 long time now I thought I'd be
00:10:32.800 interested to get Derek Stake to see how
00:10:34.959 accurate you think that is yeah I mean
00:10:37.200 mystery and Never Enough are almost you
00:10:40.079 could put them side by side you know
00:10:42.079 they're almost the same i mean the only
00:10:44.000 difference is mystery is a little
00:10:45.360 heavier i was just going to say yeah
00:10:47.040 that that's another seems to be another
00:10:48.800 prevailing attitude that this is not
00:10:51.200 softer but doesn't have quite the teeth
00:10:54.240 that Glow On and certainly prior records
00:10:56.800 did no no there's very little teeth on
00:11:00.399 this record and you know me we talk
00:11:02.640 about this all the time like I hit 50
00:11:04.480 and I'm you know more interested in
00:11:06.480 listening to Gruesome you know the the
00:11:09.120 death metal band that I'm into right now
00:11:11.120 than I am listening to soft stuff i just
00:11:14.480 you know again I don't know what's
00:11:15.760 happened to me but um but yeah I mean if
00:11:18.720 there's no teeth on it I'm not
00:11:19.920 interested well it's when I was
00:11:21.839 listening to this I kept thinking to
00:11:24.079 some parallels between this album and
00:11:27.200 Sleep Token's latest album sure where
00:11:29.680 they do a lot of genre hopping in there
00:11:31.680 where it goes from very soft and calm
00:11:34.480 and serene to uh to ripping yeah of
00:11:37.680 course not as much of that really super
00:11:40.480 heavy stuff here with Turnstyle but yes
00:11:43.279 I felt some parallels between those two
00:11:45.120 records it just the selling out thing i
00:11:48.320 I I hate the term selling out but we are
00:11:51.120 living in a time where it seems like a
00:11:53.680 lot of bands are cashing in on
00:11:56.160 commercial success and I'm not saying
00:11:57.519 that they can't afford bread um or milk
00:12:00.160 or eggs or any of that stuff groceries
00:12:03.200 it's very simple word groceries
00:12:06.870 [Music]
00:12:08.800 but what I am saying is we are living in
00:12:11.519 a time of extreme capitalism and the
00:12:13.680 reason why everything costs so much damn
00:12:15.680 money is because of corporate greed and
00:12:18.639 record labels are probably no different
00:12:20.480 and putting a ton of pressure on some of
00:12:22.320 these young influential talented minds
00:12:25.040 to go make a buck and I'm just going to
00:12:27.760 call it out like I see it we've seen
00:12:29.519 this happen a million times over you and
00:12:31.680 I have been around the music industry
00:12:34.160 and bands we like sell out then there's
00:12:36.720 Mishuga who doesn't thank you Mishuga
00:12:39.839 for not selling out by the way
00:12:46.959 but I'm I'm interested to see again I'
00:12:49.600 I've read a fair fair amount about this
00:12:52.320 this album and people's perception of it
00:12:55.279 i'm curious to see who agrees well more
00:12:58.399 specifically with you because you've got
00:12:59.920 more history with the band than I do
00:13:01.760 look if you're going to be on a metal
00:13:04.000 magazine cover or metal magazine covers
00:13:06.560 or you're going to accept you know press
00:13:08.720 requests from metal but you're not metal
00:13:11.839 it's a little weird um and that's what
00:13:14.160 happened with Sleep Token but uh on the
00:13:17.839 you know on the on on Turnst Styles
00:13:19.760 front somehow and you watch some of the
00:13:22.240 videos of them uh right now they're
00:13:25.600 still sharing the stage with the fans
00:13:27.680 and they are one of the hottest bands
00:13:29.920 going and I got to give them credit for
00:13:32.399 that are they writing music that's
00:13:34.160 hardcore that fits in with you know what
00:13:37.120 hardcore is and sharing the stage and
00:13:39.279 having people stage dive not really not
00:13:41.920 at all and I find it strange that the
00:13:44.639 fans are still looking past what they
00:13:47.200 have become and freaking out and
00:13:49.519 flipping out and doing hardcore [ __ ] to
00:13:51.839 alternative rock you know music and
00:13:54.959 great good brainwashing good for turn
00:13:57.279 style we'll see you know we'll see over
00:13:59.519 time what people say what people say
00:14:01.279 about this record but I think Glow Glow
00:14:03.760 On was their high watermark i really do
00:14:06.079 i think it was um talk about genre
00:14:08.720 dropping or genre crossing absolutely
00:14:12.000 did that but still stayed uh grounded in
00:14:14.880 hardcore um they they betrayed you know
00:14:17.920 my trust as a fan of hardcore with this
00:14:20.399 record well like I said earlier I came
00:14:22.320 at this with a from a pretty objective
00:14:24.639 standpoint and I listened to this record
00:14:26.480 and thought "Yep I feel like this is one
00:14:28.560 that's going to it's going to stick
00:14:30.160 around and and be revered as time goes
00:14:32.959 on." Would you say that's that could be
00:14:36.079 the case with this album or any prior
00:14:39.360 turn style would Glow On be that record
00:14:41.760 for you that you'll look back 15 20
00:14:44.079 years from now and go like that was the
00:14:45.680 one well right now I mean iTunes always
00:14:48.560 highlights the you know the best records
00:14:50.800 i think that that Glow On is is the
00:14:53.199 record that put Turnstyle on the map um
00:14:56.959 this might be the album that removes
00:14:59.760 them from hardcore um I but takes them
00:15:02.959 to a bigger audience yeah bigger
00:15:04.560 audience and I you know I know they did
00:15:06.240 a you know a movie for you know the
00:15:08.959 entire record and yeah u people were
00:15:11.360 really psyched about that and Metallica
00:15:13.360 did the same thing with with 72 seasons
00:15:16.000 um look they're a big band now and I
00:15:19.760 don't suspect that in 6 months from now
00:15:21.680 you're going to see too many fans
00:15:22.880 getting up on stage they're going to be
00:15:24.399 playing festivals you're not going to be
00:15:25.600 able to get to them um they're already
00:15:27.680 all over the the summer European circuit
00:15:30.880 of festivals and um so for the fans that
00:15:33.760 are able to get on stage and and um
00:15:36.320 spend time with Mr yates uh do it i
00:15:39.120 think that he probably is becoming the
00:15:40.880 voice of you know a generation um he's
00:15:43.839 got a very rebellious voice when he
00:15:45.839 decides to write rebellious music um and
00:15:49.519 uh I think that they're incredibly
00:15:51.120 talented i wish them the best i don't
00:15:53.680 suspect that we will be reviewing them
00:15:55.519 in the you know a metal podcast anymore
00:15:57.839 because they've they've ascended and
00:15:59.920 again I'm not saying that ascending to
00:16:02.079 commercial success is you know an
00:16:04.480 ascension but they've they've they've
00:16:06.959 left the nest if you will um I don't a
00:16:10.160 DIY hardcore nest yeah it's just done
00:16:13.360 you know it's over and that's how I felt
00:16:15.680 and you know my friend Matt shout out to
00:16:17.360 him we talk about you know turn style
00:16:19.440 we've been really into Turnstyle for a
00:16:21.040 long time we loved Glow On uh we played
00:16:23.920 the hell of it we kept trying to get our
00:16:25.519 schedules to work to go see them on the
00:16:27.199 Glow On tour a couple years ago we
00:16:29.600 couldn't do it and now we're kicking
00:16:30.959 ourselves because I don't really want to
00:16:33.279 see them now um and you know he was
00:16:35.839 equally disappointed in the record as
00:16:37.680 well he's like "It's okay but I'm not
00:16:39.920 going to go back and listen to it i'm
00:16:41.199 going to listen to the Glow On and
00:16:42.560 everything before that if I'm going to
00:16:44.320 listen to Turnstyle." And what's sad for
00:16:46.240 me is I'm a jerk like and you can call
00:16:48.560 me a jerk but as soon as a band sells
00:16:50.720 out that's it their back their backlog
00:16:53.199 is dead to me like Ghost I'm like eh
00:16:55.440 love their backlog don't want to listen
00:16:57.440 to it cuz I know what they turn into i
00:16:59.040 know the end of the story and I don't
00:17:00.240 like the end of the story you guys
00:17:01.759 listen to this song I just wrote it's
00:17:03.199 called I hate you guys
00:17:05.679 i hate you guys
00:17:08.240 you guys are [ __ ]
00:17:11.919 you know you mentioned the uh the
00:17:13.599 visualizer for this album that they put
00:17:15.919 together i don't know what you a movie a
00:17:17.439 visualizer what have you um and again I
00:17:20.319 don't recall if it was a Reddit thread
00:17:21.919 or some other message board but people
00:17:23.919 were were talking about they saw it just
00:17:26.400 over the over this past weekend and how
00:17:28.400 much they loved it and what an
00:17:30.240 unbelievable experience it was and I
00:17:32.960 mean just lauding praise praise praise
00:17:35.840 on it you know which is great i'm not
00:17:37.600 taking anything from it but somebody
00:17:39.200 commented you know I'm hearing far more
00:17:41.520 about how awesome the visual aspect was
00:17:44.320 than the music
00:17:46.240 and this this person I'll see if I can
00:17:48.400 find it i'll I'll I'll we'll put it up
00:17:50.160 in the uh in the edit but they were like
00:17:52.000 "Yeah I I find it telling that you're
00:17:54.160 all talking more about the visuals than
00:17:56.559 the music that the visuals are supposed
00:17:58.160 to be accompanying." Yeah well and I'll
00:18:00.640 tell you as soon as we get off this
00:18:02.160 podcast I'll be deleting it from my
00:18:03.919 iTunes i don't want it to come on
00:18:05.520 shuffle i don't want to listen to it
00:18:07.039 again i'm not I'm not interested in it
00:18:09.440 uh again it's not a bad record it's just
00:18:11.760 not a hardcore record which it's not
00:18:13.280 what you what you want what you want
00:18:15.679 yeah exactly i mean when you set an
00:18:17.600 expectation of you know and you build a
00:18:19.840 fan base up and it's not like this
00:18:21.280 happened quickly like you know I
00:18:23.200 mentioned this with Sleep Token i mean
00:18:24.559 Sleep Token had commercial success with
00:18:26.400 one record and then all of a sudden you
00:18:29.039 know they're um they're you know
00:18:31.679 completely selling out and getting soft
00:18:34.480 the Turn Styles had a pretty long
00:18:36.799 history of being a hardcore band and
00:18:38.960 building up uh a following and hitting
00:18:41.440 the road and being road warriors and to
00:18:44.000 do that to your longtime fans is
00:18:46.320 disappointing and I like to put myself
00:18:48.880 in there as a fairly longtime fan i've
00:18:51.679 been a fan of them for 9 years um it's
00:18:55.120 disappointing but it's kind of like you
00:18:57.440 know you just move on and I've moved on
00:18:59.440 from Ghost and I never was part of the
00:19:01.760 Sleep Token so I can move on from them
00:19:03.840 easily as well well you know this is
00:19:05.919 something that gets brought up every
00:19:07.600 every few episodes that we have or every
00:19:10.640 few albums that we talk about you know
00:19:12.559 do bands have the right to evolve and
00:19:14.720 change their styles and of course they
00:19:16.559 do but they do so at risk of alienating
00:19:19.679 at least some portion of their fan base
00:19:22.320 and that's try I'm going to try not to
00:19:25.200 judge them too harshly a band for making
00:19:28.480 a stylistic change because they're
00:19:31.679 evolving they're older you know their
00:19:33.760 mindset changes different things are
00:19:36.080 important to them um but I can be
00:19:38.799 unhappy about what it is that they're
00:19:40.640 doing now versus what they did then i
00:19:42.960 will say this the metal community is
00:19:44.559 forgiving and the reason why is if you
00:19:47.200 look at Metallica they did Load Reload
00:19:49.760 they did Sane Anger for me those are
00:19:52.080 three dumpster fires they are absolute
00:19:55.600 dog [ __ ] compared to what they were with
00:19:58.960 you know Ride the Lightning Master
00:20:01.039 Puppets Justice the first four are the
00:20:04.000 first i mean it just you can't compare
00:20:06.880 but to to completely abandon your fan
00:20:09.760 base the way that they did for more
00:20:12.559 commercial success sucks but they came
00:20:15.200 back they came back and they started
00:20:17.039 writing more rift driven metal you know
00:20:20.000 with um Hardwired to self-destruct um
00:20:23.280 and 72 seasons and you know Death
00:20:25.360 Magnetic was an attempt but it just
00:20:27.760 wasn't it it was very thin it was poorly
00:20:30.240 executed but they tried and the fact
00:20:33.280 that they're still they're filling
00:20:34.640 football stadiums up would suggest that
00:20:36.880 the metal community forgave them they
00:20:39.360 did and so I think that bands can yes
00:20:42.159 they can do what they want and they can
00:20:44.400 sell out and they can cash in on
00:20:46.159 commercial success but that flash in the
00:20:48.240 pan is a flash in the pan a lot of times
00:20:50.960 and then eventually you're going to have
00:20:52.400 to go crawling back to your fans that
00:20:55.360 got you there and Metallica learned that
00:20:57.679 and they're the biggest you know band
00:20:59.600 going yeah so do you foresee 10 years
00:21:02.240 from now Turnstyle putting out an album
00:21:04.480 of just straight hardcore you know music
00:21:07.039 in your face kind of record i It
00:21:08.960 wouldn't surprise me it really wouldn't
00:21:11.280 like you know I think that the
00:21:12.880 mainstream is fickle i think that
00:21:15.440 whatever the hot thing is at the moment
00:21:17.280 i mean look at like look at like Katy
00:21:19.440 Perry she was like the biggest thing
00:21:20.960 going for a while and then she
00:21:22.320 disappeared and then she went up on a
00:21:24.480 you know Bezos ship her his giant penis
00:21:27.360 kitty Perry I just want to congratulate
00:21:29.280 you on being the first astronaut to sing
00:21:31.039 in space for real thanks Jeff it was one
00:21:33.440 small step for women one giant leap for
00:21:35.440 my lifetime's tour by the way it's
00:21:37.280 Captain Perry now and now all of a
00:21:38.880 sudden she's you know filling stadiums
00:21:41.600 again but she had a for a while she had
00:21:43.919 to sell her her uh music library to make
00:21:46.559 ends meet so I don't know i I think that
00:21:49.280 it wouldn't surprise me if Turnstyle
00:21:50.880 came back it wouldn't surprise me one
00:21:52.240 bit if um Tobias Forge of Ghost goes and
00:21:55.840 writes some more songs like Mummy Dust
00:21:58.080 with the low-end guttural growl and some
00:22:00.960 you know kicking riffs and and gets back
00:22:03.520 to his roots and tries to draw you know
00:22:06.000 me and and my friend Matt back in
00:22:08.320 because we loved Ghost early on too so
00:22:10.640 it's very disappointing you know that
00:22:12.559 when that happens um but I guess you
00:22:15.520 have to you have to monetize the
00:22:17.440 commercial success when you can and
00:22:19.679 that's what's going on right now for a
00:22:21.840 lot of bands yeah well it'll be
00:22:23.520 interesting to see what the rest of the
00:22:24.720 world thinks over the next couple of
00:22:26.080 weeks and months as the album you know
00:22:28.240 settles into everybody's consciousness
00:22:30.799 germinates well I wonder what's going on
00:22:33.120 in your tiny little brain and what's
00:22:35.280 coming up you know down the road here
00:22:37.360 for for reviews uh I know you think
00:22:40.320 sometimes you know you're all jawline
00:22:42.640 and jawline and good looks and you know
00:22:45.679 but let's see what this tiny brain comes
00:22:48.320 up with for the next review yeah I'll
00:22:50.320 let you know when I find it i know
00:22:52.240 you're It's hard for you to think i know
00:22:55.120 it is it's difficult go [ __ ] yourself
00:22:57.120 pal
00:22:59.039 all right man good [ __ ] i will see you
00:23:00.720 next time
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