Sun Guts - Terminator Cross - Review

00:00:00.160 Greg Kubaki's solo project Sun Guts has
00:00:03.439 just released a new single called
00:00:05.839 Terminator Cross from their upcoming
00:00:08.240 album from his upcoming album in August.
00:00:11.120 He also just a few months ago in
00:00:13.120 February released another album called
00:00:16.320 Kill Nova. Amazing stuff. I love it. I
00:00:19.199 am a huge fan. Let's see what Derek's
00:00:22.160 thoughts are.
00:00:27.279 >> Yeah. So, keep me honest here. The album
00:00:29.679 is going to be called Superv Void and
00:00:31.679 it's coming out August 16th.
00:00:34.079 >> Um, and then the physical one is on
00:00:36.160 September 1st and uh I got to tell you,
00:00:40.399 I am a huge fan of Gregs. Uh, you turned
00:00:43.920 me on to Carb Bomb a number of years
00:00:45.600 ago. Um, but now Terminator Cross, holy
00:00:50.160 crap,
00:00:52.079 the riffs on that are badass. Yeah, it's
00:00:56.320 a monstrous track. It is huge. I can't
00:00:59.120 wait for the record. Kill Nova that just
00:01:01.520 came out in February is packed with all
00:01:05.519 sorts of amazing Greg Kubaki wonderment.
00:01:08.799 And I would expect Supervoid is going to
00:01:10.960 be similar in tone. Um it his solo stuff
00:01:14.640 has a lot of carbomb flavor to it as it
00:01:17.600 should given that you know he is the uh
00:01:20.240 I think no no discredit to any of the
00:01:22.640 other guys in carb bomb but I think Greg
00:01:24.799 does the majority of the songwriting and
00:01:28.000 uh let's see uh Greg Kubaki of course on
00:01:30.000 guitar and I I don't have enough time to
00:01:33.360 talk about the technical wizardry that
00:01:35.600 he engages in carbomb of course vocalist
00:01:38.159 Michael Daphner basist John Mell and
00:01:40.640 drummer Elliot Hoffman from carb bomb.
00:01:43.200 Sungs, however, as we know, is all Greg.
00:01:46.399 Everything is Greg. And holy [ __ ] is it
00:01:49.920 powerful, powerful stuff. Um, I have
00:01:53.119 tried explaining Greg's musical styling
00:01:56.000 to people. And it's really something
00:01:58.079 that you have to hear to, I think, get a
00:02:00.560 good feel for for what it really is. in
00:02:03.759 trying to come up with a description
00:02:05.360 like the the best I could come up with
00:02:07.840 is listening to carb bomb or sunguts is
00:02:11.520 like driving a a 30 ton truck down the
00:02:14.720 road and then you hit some black ice,
00:02:17.440 the truck starts spinning all over the
00:02:19.360 place. You don't know where it's going
00:02:20.720 or what's going to happen. You're headed
00:02:22.560 right towards a guardrail. Then all of a
00:02:24.160 sudden you catch dry pavement and you
00:02:26.000 just rock it straight down the road cuz
00:02:27.920 it's so unexpected and so wild but so
00:02:31.120 [ __ ] powerful, man. glitch metal. I
00:02:33.680 mean, that seems like the term. It's
00:02:35.120 like you just never know what's coming
00:02:36.640 the next second, next turn. But I will
00:02:39.599 tell you that it is absolutely heavy.
00:02:41.840 It's discordant and it is unforgiving.
00:02:45.760 >> Yeah.
00:02:46.080 >> And um you know, and it's I hate to use
00:02:49.360 the term whiplash, but it's a modern
00:02:51.200 whiplash to me. It's just this onslaught
00:02:54.720 of riffs and it's massive. It's just a
00:02:58.560 beatdown. And I, you know, I was
00:03:01.280 fantasizing while I was listening to it
00:03:03.280 earlier. I would, you know, we've had
00:03:04.959 Blake Ibanz from Power Trip on. I would
00:03:07.680 love to see Greg and him do something
00:03:10.959 where they trade off guitar riffs
00:03:13.360 because they're so good at writing these
00:03:16.000 just hard-hitting riffs. And I'd love to
00:03:18.319 hear it. I think it would be absolutely
00:03:19.920 amazing. It would be an interesting
00:03:21.519 pairing because you said Blake is a is a
00:03:23.840 bit of a riff meister uh himself but
00:03:26.239 tends to go a little more straight ahead
00:03:27.760 in terms of you know 44 time signatures
00:03:29.920 whereas Greg engages in all kinds of
00:03:32.480 metric [ __ ] and and messes with the
00:03:34.480 tempo and the feel. That would be a
00:03:36.319 pretty wild joint project. Greg himself
00:03:39.680 uh has labeled Sun Guts as ignorant
00:03:42.239 instrumental math core which I think is
00:03:44.560 a fantastic descriptive and his his
00:03:47.680 Yeah, go ahead. The ignorance is fine
00:03:50.000 because you can be the most um affluent
00:03:53.920 musical savant but you it doesn't matter
00:03:58.159 because he does what he wants and he and
00:04:00.400 he does everything really well.
00:04:02.560 Production really well if he tries to
00:04:05.200 mellow it out really well. Melodies very
00:04:08.799 very good. Heavy as all hell knuckle
00:04:11.760 dragging
00:04:12.720 >> great. You know what I'm saying? So the
00:04:15.519 guy can do anything he wants. And I
00:04:17.519 guess there's a reason why he filled in
00:04:19.600 for Gojira.
00:04:20.880 >> Yes, he did. He did. And you don't you
00:04:23.199 don't get tapped on the shoulder to sit
00:04:25.520 in on a gig like that unless you are
00:04:27.600 bringing very serious chops, which Greg
00:04:29.919 has had for a long long time. Um I mean
00:04:33.360 I was so thrilled for him. Not that not
00:04:35.440 that it matters, but I remember when I
00:04:37.199 think he announced it on Instagram or
00:04:38.639 whatever that he was uh doing I don't
00:04:41.040 know a couple of months worth of dates
00:04:42.800 with them. And I was so happy for him,
00:04:45.520 one to get a call like that from a band
00:04:47.759 like Gojira, but I was happy for Gojira
00:04:50.479 because if you got to bring somebody in
00:04:52.240 from outside of the band, you don't get
00:04:54.400 a whole lot better than Greg. I mean,
00:04:55.919 the guy is just a wizard. Um I he I'm
00:04:59.520 sure because he was as a schooled
00:05:03.040 musician, he was doing what needed to be
00:05:05.759 done for that band. He wasn't going to
00:05:07.680 step out, you know, he was going to play
00:05:09.520 what needed to be played. And
00:05:10.960 unfortunately, I didn't get to see too
00:05:12.320 much footage of it other than what he
00:05:13.919 posted. But, you know, obviously it was
00:05:16.320 pretty amazing. But Greg is a he is a
00:05:18.960 very very sharp guy. I don't know all of
00:05:21.440 what his non-m musical pursuits are, but
00:05:24.160 I know he is a graphic designer. All the
00:05:26.240 the graphic design you see for Carb Bomb
00:05:28.000 and Sung Guts is all Greg. I know that
00:05:30.320 he is uh I'm probably not gonna do the
00:05:33.039 guy justice, but I think he is into
00:05:35.039 coding and he's very, excuse me, very
00:05:37.919 into the the digital realm and being
00:05:40.080 able to do all kinds of non-m musical
00:05:42.320 stuff. And again, hopefully we can get
00:05:44.000 him on for a chat so he can correct all
00:05:46.479 these uh all this bad info that I'm
00:05:49.039 putting out there now. But
00:05:50.560 >> yeah,
00:05:50.800 >> the guy is an absolute wizard.
00:05:52.240 >> Well, let's talk a little bit about um
00:05:55.280 the gear that he uses for a little bit.
00:05:58.400 He uses an ISP Technologies Vector SL
00:06:01.600 active subwoofer that he lifted from
00:06:05.360 Steven Carpenter of the Deft Tones.
00:06:07.520 >> Yeah.
00:06:08.080 >> And I love that apparently adding a
00:06:11.360 subwoofer to a cabinet um gives it just
00:06:14.639 another another realm, another level of
00:06:17.120 oomph. And I also saw that he uses the
00:06:19.440 Forton 31, which is Frederick from
00:06:22.080 Mashuga's uh signature boost. And so
00:06:25.280 again, I I wanted to get into the gear
00:06:27.039 because I know you love the gear talk
00:06:29.039 and I know that
00:06:30.880 >> there was a number of names on here that
00:06:33.199 you're into. And so are you familiar
00:06:35.680 with his gear
00:06:36.639 >> with some of it? Uh I I did some digging
00:06:39.120 around a couple of years ago when I
00:06:41.039 first, you know, fell face first on
00:06:43.919 Carbomb and I just could not figure out
00:06:46.880 how he was making the sounds that he
00:06:49.759 makes. And he I know he uses a uh a
00:06:53.600 device a rack mount device called ax
00:06:55.280 effects and that is a pretty ubiquitous
00:06:59.199 piece of gear in metal these days. Um
00:07:02.160 but he doesn't just you know buy a piece
00:07:04.560 of gear and plug it in and and use
00:07:06.720 presets. I mean we're talking about a
00:07:08.720 guy who will reverse engineer existing
00:07:12.240 patches to make them do things you know
00:07:13.919 in a fashion that no one ever thought
00:07:15.840 of. And that's one of the things that
00:07:17.599 I've always liked about what he does is
00:07:19.440 he stretches what is possible with
00:07:22.160 existing gear and then if you know if he
00:07:24.319 can make it work the way he wants to
00:07:25.919 awesome. And if he can't he'll you know
00:07:28.560 get in there and mess with it until it
00:07:30.319 can do the stuff that he hears in his
00:07:32.000 head which is another I mean you like
00:07:34.160 you said I'm a gear guy. I can't wait.
00:07:36.160 We're going to kick down his door one of
00:07:37.759 these days and get him on because I have
00:07:39.599 I have questions burning questions that
00:07:42.160 maybe only I care about. His stuff is so
00:07:45.599 wild and so out there. I'm fascinated
00:07:48.400 with how he makes it happen.
00:07:50.080 >> So, reading on Reddit, it's impossible
00:07:52.319 to pull off his fast switching glitch
00:07:55.759 pitch effects using traditional analog
00:07:58.080 amp channel switchers.
00:07:59.759 >> What does that mean to you?
00:08:01.360 >> Uh, it means like going back not that
00:08:04.319 far in the past, you would have your
00:08:06.160 guitar, a couple of pedals in front of
00:08:07.919 you, a distortion pedal, maybe some
00:08:09.520 effects, flange, delay, reverb, that
00:08:11.360 sort of thing, and then an amp. and you
00:08:13.039 might have a pedal that allows you to
00:08:14.479 switch back and forth between a clean
00:08:16.560 channel on the amp and a dirty channel
00:08:18.720 with distortion or maybe two different
00:08:20.639 distortions, things like that. The gear
00:08:22.639 that's out now though makes that stuff
00:08:25.280 possible and I think Greg just exploits
00:08:27.759 the ever living hell out of it. Mhm.
00:08:29.840 >> And again, I don't want to I don't
00:08:31.759 pretend to know exactly how he does it,
00:08:33.839 but it is done using very modern gear
00:08:36.559 and taking that gear, specifically like
00:08:38.719 the axe effects pedal as a starting
00:08:41.120 point and getting into the guts of it
00:08:44.640 and figuring out like how can I make
00:08:47.680 this far far more extreme than anyone
00:08:50.240 ever planned it to be. I think I'm doing
00:08:52.800 him justice in terms of just the axe
00:08:55.200 effects. There's a couple of playthrough
00:08:56.800 videos of his that are out on YouTube
00:08:58.880 and on the interwebs that show him, you
00:09:01.360 know, literally like have a camera
00:09:03.200 trained right on his feet on this pedal
00:09:05.600 board that he uses. So, you can kind of
00:09:07.920 get an idea of what he's doing when
00:09:10.560 these changes happen, which is awesome.
00:09:12.560 Um, my fear is that if we do get them on
00:09:14.720 here, you know, it's going to be a long
00:09:16.160 conversation just because I I'll have to
00:09:19.120 be very heavy-handed with the edit.
00:09:21.360 Otherwise, it could be three hours of me
00:09:22.959 asking about, you know, one specific
00:09:24.640 effects pad he uses.
00:09:26.000 >> And that's fine. I'll I'll take a back
00:09:27.680 seat. Um, I'm I appreciate that his uh
00:09:30.399 Gibson Explorer baritone is just uh
00:09:33.040 creates it's it's a weapon that creates
00:09:35.279 destruction in the best way possible.
00:09:38.160 And um and and again, I wanted to do the
00:09:41.680 research on, you know, what is the
00:09:43.920 weaponry that he uses because I just was
00:09:47.279 grinning from ear to ear, you know, the
00:09:49.279 first the first time I I heard this
00:09:51.360 track, I was just like, what the hell?
00:09:53.760 Like, and then I just started
00:09:55.120 fantasizing about who could put vocals
00:09:57.760 over this and who could he team up with?
00:09:59.839 And then I went down the rabbit hole of
00:10:01.360 what is he using? Why is he using it?
00:10:04.240 And how does he use it? And I have no
00:10:06.640 freaking clue how to how he uses it and
00:10:09.120 how he uses it so well. But for those of
00:10:11.600 you out there that are new new to uh uh
00:10:14.640 to Greg and to Sunuts and to Carb Bomb,
00:10:18.240 um you're welcome.
00:10:20.480 >> Yeah, it is. And it Terminator Cross is
00:10:23.200 a pretty cool entry point like if this
00:10:25.279 is the first track of Gregs that you've
00:10:27.279 heard because it's kind of
00:10:29.279 representative of the stuff that he puts
00:10:31.040 together. But if you like thrashy kind
00:10:33.360 of stuff, I think this song starts out
00:10:35.760 fast and thrashy and gnarly. uh you get
00:10:39.680 but you know then you get smacked across
00:10:41.680 the face with the you know the Kubaki
00:10:44.079 pitch bending you know where he'll strum
00:10:45.920 a chord and suddenly that that pitch
00:10:47.600 starts to just rise in the middle of it
00:10:49.360 and all this wild stuff and then the
00:10:51.680 break the middle break to me the middle
00:10:54.640 break in Terminator cross it's like he
00:10:56.560 woke up having a Panta driven fever
00:10:58.800 dream
00:11:00.000 >> and I you know I heard like the Greg
00:11:02.240 Kubaki version of the end of Panta's uh
00:11:05.680 domination with but it's it's all Greg
00:11:08.560 And it's just so so badass. It's such a
00:11:11.920 monster track. I If I have one
00:11:14.320 complaint, I I I would love to see a
00:11:17.600 band with a singer doing this song.
00:11:20.720 That's my one complaint. And and call me
00:11:23.279 selfish.
00:11:24.240 >> You are so selfish.
00:11:26.000 >> I I am I'm selfish. I I want to see this
00:11:29.279 live with a band playing and him leading
00:11:31.600 as the lead guitarist and somebody
00:11:33.839 barking out something over it. Well,
00:11:35.680 then I think Carbomb is your next deep
00:11:38.160 foray because you get all of the awesome
00:11:41.200 Greg Kubaki craziness with a live
00:11:43.920 drummer, a live bass player, and with
00:11:47.040 Michael Daphner singing. And he is I I
00:11:50.000 think Daphner, it's tough to picture who
00:11:52.480 who a good singer would be like if you'd
00:11:54.320 never heard it. But Michael Daphner is a
00:11:56.640 great vocalist with Greg's stuff because
00:11:58.959 he can go clean, he can go aggro, he can
00:12:01.440 find the perfect midground between clean
00:12:04.720 and aggro to fit right in there with
00:12:07.680 with what Greg's got going musically and
00:12:10.800 and Elliot and um and John. So yeah, I
00:12:14.240 mean you you owe it to yourself to to
00:12:16.560 give uh any of Carbomb stuff a listen.
00:12:18.959 >> Well, and this leads to another
00:12:21.120 question. You had a you went out you
00:12:23.200 left your house which you never leave
00:12:25.120 the house cuz nobody likes you.
00:12:26.639 >> Yeah. Not once but twice. I left the
00:12:28.880 house last week.
00:12:29.760 >> Yeah. It's amazing. And you actually got
00:12:31.519 invited by your wife who weirdly likes
00:12:34.000 you. Um and your sister who weirdly
00:12:37.120 likes you. Uh and then our mutual friend
00:12:40.320 took you to Weird Al Yanovich
00:12:42.639 >> and then a couple days later you went
00:12:44.800 and saw Dave Matthews. Um, let me ask
00:12:47.920 you, could Greg go and play any of this
00:12:51.920 music,
00:12:53.440 any of Dave's music or any of Weird Als?
00:12:56.079 And let me ask you, could he elevate it
00:12:58.399 to a whole another level in your
00:13:00.240 opinion?
00:13:00.560 >> I think I think that yes, I think you
00:13:02.800 could put Greg on stage with either of
00:13:04.480 those bands and he could play the guitar
00:13:07.279 parts from either of those bands and he
00:13:09.839 could do it do it justice. Could he put
00:13:12.240 the Greg Kubaki spin on it and change it
00:13:15.440 to something very very different? He
00:13:17.760 absolutely could and maybe to the
00:13:20.639 chagrin of, you know, a half a billion
00:13:23.440 Dave Matthews and and Weird Al fans for
00:13:26.320 sure, but I that is another concert I
00:13:28.480 would pay and drive to go see. would
00:13:30.959 love for him to take Dare to Be Stupid
00:13:33.200 by Weird Al Yanovich and just turn it
00:13:36.160 into a a knuckle dragging badass metal
00:13:39.200 song because it would be cool as hell.
00:13:41.360 And I've been listening to that song for
00:13:42.800 years on Transformers the movie and
00:13:44.560 laughing hysterically about it. And it's
00:13:46.959 still funny, but I would love to hear
00:13:49.120 what he would do with it cuz he turned
00:13:50.800 it into something amazing. Well, I will
00:13:52.720 tell you, uh, when the opportunity to
00:13:54.880 see Weirdowl came up a month or so ago,
00:13:57.680 um, our mutual friend said, "Hey, you
00:13:59.600 know, they're they're coming around and
00:14:01.120 Puddles, the Pity Party clown, was the
00:14:03.440 opening act. And if you don't know
00:14:04.560 Puddles, that is he is a pretty wild
00:14:07.519 cat, too." But I thought, "Yeah, hell
00:14:09.120 yeah. Let's go see Weird." I mean, it
00:14:10.560 was literally 15 minutes from my house.
00:14:12.880 No shows of any value come 15 minutes
00:14:15.440 from my house, as you know. So, I was
00:14:17.120 like, "Hell yeah, let's go see Weird."
00:14:18.959 and I was not prepared for the Weirdowl
00:14:23.279 concert experience. His fan base is huge
00:14:26.880 and they are raid fans. Um, and it was
00:14:32.720 it was quite an experience, man. I mean,
00:14:34.480 it was I don't know like a two and a
00:14:36.160 half almost three-hour set. And Weird Al
00:14:38.800 can still kill it. He he still gets up
00:14:41.839 and performs really well and performs
00:14:44.160 the songs, you know, true to form.
00:14:45.920 They're really strong. The band is the
00:14:48.079 perfect band for Weird Al. Uh, you know,
00:14:50.959 no discredit to them. It's, you know,
00:14:52.880 but I'm into I'm into, you know, really
00:14:55.680 wild Prague metal and, you know, Weird
00:14:58.560 Al's backing band. Lovely and and
00:15:00.720 perfect for Weird Al, though they are.
00:15:03.199 That is not really the kind of stuff I'm
00:15:05.040 into. But, so there was that. And then
00:15:07.199 two two days later, my, as you said, my
00:15:09.279 wife and my sister uh, and I went over
00:15:11.120 to West Palm Beach and we saw Dave
00:15:12.959 Matthews. I've been a Dave fan for a
00:15:14.959 long, long time. again, a very different
00:15:16.959 animal, but those guys all are at the
00:15:19.199 top of their field and they're all
00:15:20.880 phenomenal players and Dave Matthews
00:15:23.279 always puts on a good show. Um, so it it
00:15:25.680 it is fun to step out of the stuff that
00:15:28.000 you're really deep into every once and
00:15:29.680 again and be reminded that there is good
00:15:31.839 music out there that is not in your, you
00:15:34.800 know, chosen genre.
00:15:36.160 >> Hey, we're going to do a little
00:15:37.199 something different tonight. Let's
00:15:39.040 introduce my good friend Greg Kubaki.
00:15:41.760 Uh, yeah. We're going to do uh Seek Up,
00:15:44.399 you know. Yeah. Can you imagine what he
00:15:47.120 imagine
00:15:48.720 Greg walking out with Dave Matthews and
00:15:51.680 just destroying the stage.
00:15:54.720 >> You seek an emotion and your
00:15:59.199 overflowing
00:16:05.759 >> and everybody that the stands would just
00:16:07.680 be like, "What the hell happened?" But
00:16:10.240 he'd probably do seek up a really good
00:16:14.240 justice, you know, be really good to be
00:16:16.480 >> I expect like Dave Matthews has a, you
00:16:18.720 know, uh, drummers love Carter Bowford,
00:16:21.759 the drummer for Dave Matthews. He is an
00:16:23.839 exceptionally talented guy. Again,
00:16:25.600 everybody in the band is really, really
00:16:27.360 top-notch. But uh I think that Greg
00:16:30.320 could step on stage and and carbonify or
00:16:33.600 sun gutsify a Dave Matthews song and he
00:16:36.079 could probably get some converts out of
00:16:37.839 that audience because I think a lot of
00:16:40.079 Dave Matthews band fans are fans of, you
00:16:44.079 know, skilled musicianship and would
00:16:46.399 appreciate what it is that Greg can do.
00:16:49.120 Um so you know what? I may have to shoot
00:16:51.519 him a message when we wrap up with this
00:16:53.279 and and put the challenge there to him
00:16:55.519 that uh we're gonna have four people who
00:16:57.920 are anxiously awaiting a uh a Greg
00:17:00.639 Kubaki version of Gravedigger or
00:17:03.040 something like that.
00:17:04.000 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, it listen, I'm I'm I
00:17:07.199 too am a a Dave fan. I met him a few
00:17:10.160 years back. It was weird. My roommate
00:17:12.319 was friends with this guy Victor who
00:17:14.480 worked for Red Bull when Red Bull was
00:17:16.880 just really starting to get going. and
00:17:19.280 Dave Matthews was somehow involved with
00:17:22.079 Red Bull and then he did like a PBS
00:17:24.480 special in New Jersey and we were
00:17:26.079 invited and we went backstage and then
00:17:28.400 Real World New York was there filming
00:17:31.280 and meeting Dave Matthews and so he got
00:17:33.919 done yeah after the show after this PBS
00:17:36.400 special he met all these [ __ ] in in
00:17:39.440 real world New York and then came over
00:17:41.360 and he's like he goes you guys aren't
00:17:43.440 going to be weird are you? and he was
00:17:45.760 totally cool and he just hung out. He
00:17:47.520 knew Victor. Um, my roommate somehow
00:17:50.160 knew Victor and we all had a great time
00:17:52.799 and I chatted with Dave Matthews for 15
00:17:55.200 minutes. And he is the most laidback,
00:17:58.000 normal dude. And frankly, I could see
00:18:00.320 him being like, "Wow, that Kubaki Baky
00:18:02.880 guy knows how to play. Let's let's jam.
00:18:05.360 Let's see what we can do." Like, he is
00:18:07.120 very down to earth dude.
00:18:08.480 >> Yeah. Yeah. If you want to watch
00:18:09.600 something really funny Dave Matthews
00:18:11.440 related, just go on YouTube and and and
00:18:13.840 search for Dave Matthews slap and I'll
00:18:16.320 leave I'll leave it at that. It it
00:18:18.320 cracks me up every time I see it. But
00:18:20.240 yeah, Greg Kubachi and Dave Matthews.
00:18:22.240 Greg Kubaki and a weird, you know, put
00:18:25.440 Greg with anybody and he's going to if
00:18:27.520 not elevate, he's going to match it for
00:18:29.280 sure. But this Terminator Cross is so
00:18:32.640 gnarly as is Kill Nova. I spent a lot of
00:18:35.280 time listening to Kill Nova since it
00:18:37.200 came out and a lot over the last week or
00:18:39.200 so and god damn what a record that is,
00:18:41.760 man. Just so good.
00:18:43.840 >> I'm an absolute dink. I was supposed to
00:18:46.000 listen to it, but I was moving and I had
00:18:50.240 to set up my daughter's bedroom and I
00:18:52.640 dude life happened and so I didn't
00:18:55.600 >> You can call me a dink. Everybody can
00:18:57.280 call me a dink. I did not have time to
00:19:00.080 listen to it all the way through and be
00:19:01.520 able to comment on it. Um, but I did
00:19:03.600 have it on in the background and it was
00:19:05.520 definitely an eb and flow of heavy
00:19:07.360 melodic just everything that you could
00:19:09.360 possibly think of in terms of I would
00:19:11.760 say that Greg showed off on that record
00:19:14.559 and he's probably going to show off on
00:19:16.880 Supervoid as well.
00:19:18.080 >> Yeah. Which he I mean that is this is
00:19:20.720 the venue for him to do that. This is
00:19:22.880 all Greg. You know, everything you hear
00:19:25.200 is Greg. So he absolutely should and I
00:19:28.080 applaud him for it. I think it's [ __ ]
00:19:30.240 amazing and uh I can't wait to get my
00:19:32.720 hands on the uh on the full length.
00:19:34.320 >> Yeah, I'm glad that he spills some sung
00:19:36.640 guts for us because it's badass and uh I
00:19:39.600 will I'm a fan. I like it.
00:19:41.280 >> It is. Yeah, it's great. All right.
00:19:43.280 Well, uh we could go on for another 20
00:19:45.679 minutes about his equipment or him
00:19:47.440 playing with Dave Matthews or Neil
00:19:49.600 Diamond and how, you know, whatever. But
00:19:52.080 we're not Winger.
00:19:55.200 >> Kip Winger and Greg Kubaki. I love it.
00:19:57.520 The thing is is Kip Winger actually is a
00:19:59.760 pretty good musician. It's just he wrote
00:20:01.760 a shitty song about being a pervert.
00:20:04.160 >> He made some bad choices, but everybody
00:20:06.400 was making bad choices when Kip Winger
00:20:09.120 was relevant.
00:20:11.280 >> You know, there was a lot of white
00:20:13.520 powder going around, too. So,
00:20:15.120 >> there was all kinds of [ __ ] going around
00:20:16.640 back then. I mean, I I certainly didn't
00:20:18.720 engage, you know, either to driven snow.
00:20:21.760 >> I was too young in the 80s to do such
00:20:23.919 things. But I I will say though that at
00:20:26.880 10 years old when I heard Slayer, uh it
00:20:29.039 corrupted my mind and I think in the
00:20:31.200 best way possible.
00:20:32.159 >> I couldn't agree more. All right, dude.
00:20:34.240 Well, on to the next one. Uh whenever
00:20:36.480 that happens, dude.
00:20:38.640 See you.